Archbishop of Canterbury Claims Karl Marx Correct in His Analysis of Capitalism, Warns Britian to Learn Lessons From Nazi Germany in Current Recession

Here we go again. Another "man of God" has ventured into dangerous territory. Well, Dr. Rowan Williams, the senior most cleric in the Church of England, in an article in "The Daily Telegraph," claimed Germany in the 1930s pursued a principle that worked consistently but only on the basis that "quite a lot of people that you might have thought mattered as human beings actually didn't." Yeah, this so-called epiphany has sparked controversy because of the comparison Williams made between Prime Minister Gordon Brown's response to the economic downturn and the Third Reich. Is this man really sane or just another nutjob in the guise of a senior cleric?

Dr Williams then appears to draw a parallel between the Nazis and the UK Government's policies for tackling the downturn, which he says fails to take account of the "particular human costs" to the most vulnerable in society.

"What about the unique concerns and crises of the pensioner whose savings have disappeared, the Woolworth's employee, the hopeful young executive, let alone the helpless producer of goods in some Third-world environment where prices are determined thousands of miles away?" he asks. In an apparent reference to the Prime Minister, who has claimed to be guided by a moral compass, the Archbishop also observes "without these anxieties about the specific costs, we've lost the essential moral compass".

It follows a disagreement with the Prime Minister last week in which the Archbishop likened Government policy on spending to "an addict returning to a drug". This prompted Mr Brown to allude to the Biblical parable of the Good Samaritan by claiming he could not "walk by on the other side" as people suffered. The Prime Minister has pledged to spend his way out of the economic downturn, increasing public borrowing to a record £200m a day. The Government has pledged £500 billion of taxpayers' money to bail out the banking system, and cut VAT by 2.5 per cent to get consumers spending again. Source: UK Telegraph

It seems that Archbishop Williams has come down with a case of amnesia. Only this summer, the Archbishop invited the Prime Minister to speak at a rally by Anglican bishops and hailed his commitment to ending world poverty. But he turned on Brown shortly after the collapse of banks worldwide in September. He called for governments to increase regulation of the financial sector and claimed that Karl Marx was correct in his analysis of the dangers of capitalism.

He denounced Mr Brown's plans to increase debt, saying: "I worry about that because it seems a little bit like the addict returning to the drug. "When the Bible uses the word 'repentance', it doesn't just mean beating your breast, it means getting a new perspective, and that is perhaps what we are shrinking away from."

In his article he warns of the dangers of "unconditional loyalty to a system" that turned into a "nightmare" in Germany under Hitler, in which only certain groups and ideas were valued, while others were deemed dispensable and suffering was ignored. He cites the lectures given by Karl Barth, a theologian who was driven into exile by Hitler, who had claimed that one of the benefits of Christianity is that believers are able to live without the "principles" that drive politics. Source: UK Telegraph

The Archbishop ends his rant by saying that the message of the Christmas story is one of unconditional love, and the idea that every human life must be valued. Geez, that's the only thing he said that I agree with. Why is it that these religious leaders have to get involved in politics? To compare Gordon Brown to Adolf Hitler is reprehensible and those words should not be uttered by anyone, especially a man of God. I fully expect to ruffle some feathers with this article, but really people, saying that Britain could learn lessons from Nazi Germany to cope with the recession is simply unChristianlike and really in poor taste. The Bible didn't instruct us to divide one another and use inflammatory language. The last person I expected to hear such vitriol from was certainly not a religious leader, especially an archbishop.

Archbishop of Canterbury Claims Karl Marx Correct in His Analysis of Capitalism, Warns Britian to Learn Lessons From Nazi Germany in Current Recession

Here we go again. Another "man of God" has ventured into dangerous territory. Well, Dr. Rowan Williams, the senior most cleric in the Church of England, in an article in "The Daily Telegraph," claimed Germany in the 1930s pursued a principle that worked consistently but only on the basis that "quite a lot of people that you might have thought mattered as human beings actually didn't." Yeah, this so-called epiphany has sparked controversy because of the comparison Williams made between Prime Minister Gordon Brown's response to the economic downturn and the Third Reich. Is this man really sane or just another nutjob in the guise of a senior cleric?

Dr Williams then appears to draw a parallel between the Nazis and the UK Government's policies for tackling the downturn, which he says fails to take account of the "particular human costs" to the most vulnerable in society.

"What about the unique concerns and crises of the pensioner whose savings have disappeared, the Woolworth's employee, the hopeful young executive, let alone the helpless producer of goods in some Third-world environment where prices are determined thousands of miles away?" he asks. In an apparent reference to the Prime Minister, who has claimed to be guided by a moral compass, the Archbishop also observes "without these anxieties about the specific costs, we've lost the essential moral compass".

It follows a disagreement with the Prime Minister last week in which the Archbishop likened Government policy on spending to "an addict returning to a drug". This prompted Mr Brown to allude to the Biblical parable of the Good Samaritan by claiming he could not "walk by on the other side" as people suffered. The Prime Minister has pledged to spend his way out of the economic downturn, increasing public borrowing to a record £200m a day. The Government has pledged £500 billion of taxpayers' money to bail out the banking system, and cut VAT by 2.5 per cent to get consumers spending again. Source: UK Telegraph

It seems that Archbishop Williams has come down with a case of amnesia. Only this summer, the Archbishop invited the Prime Minister to speak at a rally by Anglican bishops and hailed his commitment to ending world poverty. But he turned on Brown shortly after the collapse of banks worldwide in September. He called for governments to increase regulation of the financial sector and claimed that Karl Marx was correct in his analysis of the dangers of capitalism.

He denounced Mr Brown's plans to increase debt, saying: "I worry about that because it seems a little bit like the addict returning to the drug. "When the Bible uses the word 'repentance', it doesn't just mean beating your breast, it means getting a new perspective, and that is perhaps what we are shrinking away from."

In his article he warns of the dangers of "unconditional loyalty to a system" that turned into a "nightmare" in Germany under Hitler, in which only certain groups and ideas were valued, while others were deemed dispensable and suffering was ignored. He cites the lectures given by Karl Barth, a theologian who was driven into exile by Hitler, who had claimed that one of the benefits of Christianity is that believers are able to live without the "principles" that drive politics. Source: UK Telegraph

The Archbishop ends his rant by saying that the message of the Christmas story is one of unconditional love, and the idea that every human life must be valued. Geez, that's the only thing he said that I agree with. Why is it that these religious leaders have to get involved in politics? To compare Gordon Brown to Adolf Hitler is reprehensible and those words should not be uttered by anyone, especially a man of God. I fully expect to ruffle some feathers with this article, but really people, saying that Britain could learn lessons from Nazi Germany to cope with the recession is simply unChristianlike and really in poor taste. The Bible didn't instruct us to divide one another and use inflammatory language. The last person I expected to hear such vitriol from was certainly not a religious leader, especially an archbishop.

Paul Broun, Georgia GOP Rep. Says Barack Obama Will Establish Gestapo-Like Security Force To Impose Marxist Dictatorship

The socialist attacks on Barack Obama continues even after John McCain was trounced in Electoral College votes last week. Republican representative Paul Broun sayd that he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

What an idiot. Look at what President Bush has done. That's more of a Gestapo-style administration to me--wiretaps, secrecy in disclosing who the federal government loaned nearly $2 trillion to, invading Iraq on a lie, and I could go on and on.

Broun referenced a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

According to media reports, Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said he was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.

Of course, with gun sales up in a number of states, Broun piggybacked off that too.
Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and he favors common sense gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons.

So, here we are again, back on the socialist issue. It seems to me that President Bush and his posse has led us down a dangerous path and we are experiencing eight years of Gestapo-style rule under Bush.

Paul Broun, Georgia GOP Rep. Says Barack Obama Will Establish Gestapo-Like Security Force To Impose Marxist Dictatorship

The socialist attacks on Barack Obama continues even after John McCain was trounced in Electoral College votes last week. Republican representative Paul Broun sayd that he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

What an idiot. Look at what President Bush has done. That's more of a Gestapo-style administration to me--wiretaps, secrecy in disclosing who the federal government loaned nearly $2 trillion to, invading Iraq on a lie, and I could go on and on.

Broun referenced a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

According to media reports, Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said he was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.

Of course, with gun sales up in a number of states, Broun piggybacked off that too.
Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and he favors common sense gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons.

So, here we are again, back on the socialist issue. It seems to me that President Bush and his posse has led us down a dangerous path and we are experiencing eight years of Gestapo-style rule under Bush.